I have completely lost my iron swing due to injury and need a swing coach as well as does your program cover this as well? Just ask Corey Pavin, Mark Wilson, Mike Weir, Fred Funk. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. How Far Should I Hit My Hybrids? Don't doubt the ability of some people to produce similar numbers to the pros. I almost just quit playing golf because when I started 4 years ago I was playing golf with two people most of the time that were in the 1% of AMAs . Shaft: Aldila NV, 7-wood: Callaway Big Bertha The 56 to 62 grooves are wider and shallower for chipping and lob shots. Most golfers I know are happy to drive the ball 200 yards and keep it in the fairway. Unlock the POWER Muscles in Your Golf Swing! People that take hole distance & distance on approach to calculate driving distance is what's funny. This put him near the bottom of the pack. He has an average attack angle of -1.6 degrees.The following table looks at the AMA versus what is optimal., *Carry, Landing Angle, and Total were normalized under 0 alti- tude, 75F, and 75% humidity for the AMA to create an apples to apples comparison. If I have a front pin with a hard green, I would go at it harder with the shorter club, maybe a 150 yard pitching wedge. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 7 S, Hybrid: Callaway Apex (19 degrees) You will probably pick up that I gravitate towards the technical aspects of most things I do. Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom 3-wood: Titleist 906F4 (13.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila NV 7-wood: Michael Hopper whats in the bag accurate as of the WM Phoenix Open. Thats a course representative of the average golfer? Instead, its mostly situational. Very unfortunately most of us are too busy with other things we need to do. How to gain more distance without swinging faster? Top 50 Player Guide. Great read with invaluable data and information. Looking at how far pros hit their irons is a much easier task these days due to all the tracking technology that exists however it still does not make it an exact science. Skill Triumphs Over All! [/quote] [/quote] Does anyone know any of Tiger Woods Trackman data either pitching, irons, 3woods or driver? I think you wish you hit it further. Is here any benefit ideas about beginners level women, what you say? Mizuno Pro 225 5-GW PX IO You can watch my full review via the Golfalot YouTube channel here: If you like what you see, please make sure you SUBSCRIBE to our YouTube channel to see all Golfalot video reviews and features first. The following graph shows the distribution of AMA Driver club speeds. I would recommend that you go visit a TrackMan certified coach, he/she will be able to help you with your club speed. I originally tried the 12 bounce in the 52 degree but I could feel the club stuttering in the turf at impact. TrackMan session with Justin Rose and Sean Foley - YouTube 0:00 / 5:10 TrackMan session with Justin Rose and Sean Foley 158,856 views Feb 26, 2013 See how 2 vs 3 vs 4 Hybrid Distances, How Far Should I Hit My Irons? Its a whole different story. I agree with you 100%. any 7 iron data ? When looking at how the AMA performs, lets start with the drive. Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high Your shot versatility is obtained by a comprehensive 23 head options in different lofts, grinds and bounces. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] And that was 12 years ago. Lj\gUk':Q9d P\Ko?#sU;:MRk;'FTz![]wJQRL/"&Xp]q%F"S4y_fY;<5PemA,YosVrs>l6:cc I would say probably is bs. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. I also shot 86. It was soft in landing rather than quick and checking. I often feel articles such as this are skewed. I think the difference is practice, practice and more practice. Clear editor. 4 out of 1000 swings avg 117 mph? Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. It sounds like Sophie has found her new fairway wood Titleist's brand new fairway model is seriously hot, New HydraZip face provides 43% more spin in wet conditions. First we have to determine the average length of the par 4s at your course from the different tees available. Including a personal best one under 35 for nine. Length is nothing. Distance to Apex 195.9 I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. As golf instruction and coaching continue to move more towards verifiable data (what the instructor/coach knows) and further away from guess and check (what the instructor/coach thinks), we expect to see more improvement in the golf community. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. That smash factor surprises me a bit. He defeated Will Zalatoris in a 3-hole playoff to clinch the title for the second time. A former tour pro told me he hit a tree branch off the tee that knocked his ball down, and it affected his average for the whole year by 15 yards. He has an average attack angle of -1.6 degrees. Torrey Pines South, huh? f[yZ3 /=KCYOSg~VN@ ae@.Xq@U$ Q\8H`/ 9Hj: .1xq What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. The next table uses the approach distances from the previous and calculates the proximity to hole. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] Now that you guys have more and more data from the combine tests are you going to adjust the hcap chart. I hit a green today which was 163 so pulled a 6 iron landed on back part of the green 10 yds past the flag. At just 29-years old, he can lay claim to 2 Major victories, a FedEx Cup Championship, PLAYERS Championship and a PGA TOUR Player of the Year Award. Without such a grant, his family would not have been able to follow his passion. I have played golf for 22 years. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high I stressed this to my fitter - make sure you talk to them about your golf as they are only seeing a small sample of your game. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. Justin is that really you?? For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. They make me giddy and want to practice my short game all the time. Club Head Speed 119.55 This data further confirms the need for most golfers to aim towards the center of the green on all approach shots. And that is for the simple reason that pros will hit all manner of a variety of different shots with their irons, especially for their approach shots, and as such, they will hit the same iron a variety of different distances. It takes a detailed plan and it takes time, and this is why I think the improvement of AMAs isnt as impressive as it could be. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. They hit 4-irons 208 yards and 5-irons 199 yards on average. Get off the elite courses and look at the ones where people are paying maybe $45 to play, not $200+. As you can see, 45% have a club speed between 91 and 100 mph., The AMA is far from efficient with his driver. The above statements were [i]only[/i] about length. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 85 S, Irons: Callaway Apex Forged (2021) (4-PW) WebPGA Tour players hit their driver a total of 296.6 yards on average with a carry distance of 284.3 yards according to official 2022 Shotlink data. This gap is the highest one Titleist advise in custom fitting, they like to see only 4 degrees between clubs which unfortunately means you are buying 3 wedges and paying an additional 169. [/quote] And also wondering how LPGA fits into this chart. That means the par 4s would average 395 yards. I also shot 86. F rom the comfort of your sofa or if youre lucky, alongside the ropes each major championship gives you a chance to see the biggest hitters in the world unsheathe their drivers and swing away. I think it would be awesome to see if any of the numbers change due to the new developments. I seem to have the same speed as pro women and they are playing the same distances that I am but scoring way way lower with a game built from precision over speed. Is it around 25-35% less then the AMA group? Shafts: Project X 125 6.5, Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM9 (46-10F @46.5, 52-08F @51.5, 56-10S @55.5), Titleist Vokey Design WedgeWorks Proto (60.5 T) The Justin Thomas Foundation positively impacts children in need, junior golf, and military families with the intent of helping all achieve their full potential. There is the same classic stamping on the sole with the BV logo in the middle, SM9 written towards the toe and Vokey Design nearer the heel. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. As for his short irons his 8-iron yardage is 165, he hits his 9-iron 150 yards and his pitching wedge 135 yards on average. I can say that Trackman is second to none, and its always my first recommendation to others. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. Of course, playing shorter courses seems very obvious if you want to improve performance. [/quote] Honestly many guys in this small % sort of make every other golfer feel like that . Ever found a yardage you like? SM5 53, 59 DShawn Johnson I remember they had the analysis of his 8 iron that he hit at firestone from like 200+ out in a golf digest or something a couple years ago don't remember any of the numbers unfortunately tho, M2, maybe [quote name='GooseHook' timestamp='1364385234' post='6705065'] The 12 felt good but the 8 slid through the turf and cushioned the ball off the face. Finally the bunker shot, this is where I feel Vokey really stand out and help my game. There is nothing worse than getting the club stuck in the ground at impact. More photos from the event here. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide (2021). I feel like a lot of AMs sacrifice strike for the extra 1-2 mph which ultimately leads to less distance. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. While the length of the course is an important factor in scoring, more so is the challenging greens and required approach shots. Titleist 913D3 9.5* Diamana D+ 72s [/quote] So just to confirm what we are indeed up against we took a detailed look at just how far the top pros are hitting their clubs. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364416375' post='6708959'] It makes the head look a little rounder, but Vokey has done a great job of disguising this weight distribution at address. Justin came from 7 strokes back to start the final round at the 2022 PGA Championship which ties the largest final round comeback in PGA Championship history. I played Monday and hit my 1st 3 drives over 300 and in the fairway. Mine isnt that much higher and i hit driver 275 yards. 200 to 225 yards. Thomas breakout season came in 2016-17 with five of his PGA TOUR wins, including the PGA Championship, 12 top 10 finishes and, ultimately, the FedEx Championship. I'm 6'3, in pretty good shape and played baseball my entire life. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Whats the proportion of shots wide of the mark by say 80 feet or more (or some width for which there is data) 2. Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? Mizumo T22 Blue 54 58 S400 TI I figured that out years ago based on hole distance and yardage to the flag after my tee shot. And a good part of the reason for that is the average golfer often watches with wonder as the best players on the PGA GolfingFocus.com was created simply as a place to allow us to try and find answers to common golfing questions asked, and problems faced, by all standards of golfer. By comparison a 5-wood carries 235 yards and hit a 3 hybrid, which measures from 19 to 21, an average carry distance of 230 yards. The data results given in this article are completely skewed. I've had the privilege of playing with and watching tour players in person, so I know what they're capable of. You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. There is no age or nationality restriction for the AMA. http://www.rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction/golfequipment/golf-launch-monitor.php, Short hitter compared to the average WRXer. Bump up your confidence around the greens. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high My spin dropped 500 rpm on average and my flight favoured the left side. Can trackman info like the dispersion plot data be projected over a course layout? The fairways where I play are very firm and I get a fair amount of roll. More photos from the event here. Id estimate the average tour player will hit their basic solid drive between 295-310 under neutral conditions. WebJustin Thomas TrackMan Numbers Congratulations to Justin Thomas with his latest victory at the Dell Technologies Championship, well played! God how I loved playing golf. It's not the length that makes a pro. Either way I don't care. Just would be interesting to see. That's what I think. 3. For 6-irons the average is 188 yards, for 7-irons it is 177 yards and 8-irons, 9-irons and pitching wedges go 164, 153 and 141 yards respectively. The LDA guys can't hang with the short games and are wildly sporadic with their tee shots, hence why they get multiple tries. It is fun and I find that I usually am scoring better than I would say 90% of the guys I play with now, hitting on average longer than 90% and I realize that that is because shooting in the 90s means in golf you are better than most so above average which unless you played since a teenager and have no other life and want to play 4 to 5 days a week or more that is all you can ask for. What a great read with invaluable data and information. I have always wanted a push draw and now i can see the light in the tunnel. FULL GUIDE By Age, Handicap etc. Either way I don't care. Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. However the pros have what is called a stock yardage for their irons, which equates essentially to the average distance they will hit a full shot with each iron swinging normally. Full details on the new TSR2 and TSR3 here! Milled grooves - SM9 sees Titleist use a new saw to cut their grooves, instead of stamping them onto the face. There are three finishes available in SM9: Tour Chrome (matte), Brushed Steel (shiny) and Jet Black (matte). If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. They hit a 3-wood an average carry distance of 249 yds, a 5-wood 235 yds and 3-hybrids 230 yds. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. After reading this article I did more research and discovered I should be playing nearly 1200 yards shorter, and doing so without shame. Titleist SM5 52-08 & 58-07 S400's Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide, What Wedges Do the Pros Use? It's good for some laughs. May I ask how many of them have 120 mph swing. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Spin Rate is on the high side, which also could indicate an off-center strike, and probably a negative attack angle both will shorten your distance. Total Distance Efficiency 2.484 On the LPGA Tour the top women pros carry a 3-wood 195 yards, a 5-wood 185 yards and a 7-wood 174 yards on average. i suggested he play white from the start and he is happy. For as long as I can remember Vokey have been the top wedge brand in golf. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Clubhead Speed - 125[/background][/size][/color] Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. [/quote] 2 were over 320. [quote name='xmanhockey7' timestamp='1364353356' post='6703825'] Cobra Radspeed 5W RDX Blue, Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4i Tour AD DI You just have to be fit correctly and learn how to deliver the club better to the ball, and i shoot low 70s and i hit the ball 245 yards with ZERO roll in Thailand so it can be done. While golf has given Justin a career he thoroughly enjoys, he knows the life lessons golf can provide. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. Commented here a while ago Im actually not sure before I used GPS through my mobile whether I hit it further than I do now. All rights reserved, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Charles-Lambert-video-2.mp4, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Justin-Thomas-2.mp4, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/20220908_125734.mp4. Hi Gerry. Shafts:KBS Tour 125 S+, Putter: TaylorMade Spider GT Couldn't of said it any better myself. I appreciate that. [quote name='swanry30' timestamp='1364407652' post='6707945'] That means the distance from the center of the green tothe edge averages just under 44 feet. Someone will probably come in and explain what he should do to improve those numbers.. Callaway Paradyme Tensei 1K 70 Scotty Squareback and Odyssey OG #7, Srixon ZX5 MKII Irons 4-PW Like New and a Titleist U505 4 Iron, OG Nike TW13 PING i59 irons Vessel Stand bag (trade). He was also the beneficiary of a grant that afforded him the opportunity to travel and pursue his junior golf career. Copyright 2020 GolfWRX Holdings, LLC. When I watch professional events I am always taken aback by how high they hit their driver but how low they hit their wedges. Thanks! In truth, the vast majority of golfers are playing from tees that are too long based on their club speed and skill level. But he picked up 25 yards for elevation, 25 for wind, and another 45 for extra roll. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] Im your AMA although Im trending down. How can that be true. My teachers are always trying to get me to change my swing to generate club head speed, but this consistently leaves me frustrated and physically sore. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 95 X Hybrid, Irons: Titleist T100 (3-9) 4 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X, Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x, Putter- Odyssey Vesa 12 center stroke lab shaft.