Recognize that if your partner hurts you, it is not intentional. The worst case scenario was a workaholic trait which eventually took its toll and the sexual abuse came to light. It says enough i believe. If he was a stranger would you size him up for what you might think he is? Thats how i dealt with previous therapist that was trying to destroy me same way as my mother was.I had to write down her acitons and words in a general email to the healthcare departmet where she was working to have them and her figure she had fucked up. Ever since we got together he has been judgmental, critical, controlling and insistent on being right about everything. I just feel so incapable of meeting her needs in terms of being empathetic and sympathetic to her emotional needs. It may help the person feel in control, superior, or powerful. He says theres no sex and professes confusion as to why that would bother me. For instance, I have autism, but Im not one-dimensional, I behave differently around different people (as does everyone you dont behave the same way to your SO as to your boss and to your friends). Which makes me suspicious. He seemed on edge when he got home from work. He said it was the way they unwind their minds that are on overload. They would constantly say im evil and i ruin everyones life and i believed them but the facts were not adding up. After over 30 years I have been worn down and become apathetic, permanently tired, lacking in motiviation and unable to find much joy in my life. It was a bit of a shock to my system but I do feel Ive grown from these experiences. Perhaps if they are seeing and are subjected to these traits then there is a possibility of developing them. Home Terms of Service Privacy Policy Sitemap Subscribe to The GoodTherapy Blog. Im not perfect either but telling him my point of view or that you feel left out or asking for the same emotional support I give him (my daughter is going through tremendous health problems) shouldnt be called a lecture. As I began to read it helped me greatly to understand our situation and how it had got to this place. The only question is why isnt everyone mentally ill? Can you tell me more about this? about 5 years after the divorce I read about Aspergers in a magazine. For some of you struggling with how Aspies think, I have been given a book written by a man who had Aspergers most of his life then found out he had it, it is certainly an eye opener to how differently they think. Of course the house wont pass to him unless you make provision. It is also apparent that they can only process one thought at a time, and are continually on catch up throughout the day, a reason why autistic children come home like bears with sore heads. Aspergers in Australia is now called Autism and is on the autism spectrum. Not everyone is as gentle and understanding as I am. But I do believe my father thinks completely different to other people. A load of these can affect decision making and make humans sick in many ways. so if they had Both.. one after another.. a decade in between each other.. parent tried to kill me. The one thing narcissists dont have is empathy. So i could spend all year giving all the examples that proves my point.. no therapist or psy ever acknowledged my story. My main problem is that I still keep forgetting that I cannot treat him as a normal person, so I make problems for myself. Before anyone says does it matter which label he has or if he has one at (because I do get these questions so please dont think I am being rude or aggressive). Im too strong of a person to let the pain and frustration linger for too long; but at the moment my curiosities are running on high, high octane searching for answers given the information and memories I have of our brief relationship. WebTo be an effective narcissist, you have to have some excess mental energy for exploitation, and autism can be draining, so it often doesn't come in a particularly hard-hitting combo. I mean therapies and such helped but .. really.. 10% therapy 10% medications 80% my own discoveries and work on myself. then what is the problem ? Psys and therapists say its impossible that i be narc, impossible. I wish people would actually ask autistic people before writing about them. Being condescending, inconsiderate, dehumanizing, and an annoying argumentative retard all at once is narcissism not autism and i feel like we're doing a disservice to acrually autistic people when we always confuse narcissistic behavior with autism like have we not learned anything from MrGirl? Now Im not sure if I believe him. Here is a table depicting some of the similarities and differences between the two conditions. When I first met him I thought he talked a lot but he did ask me a few questions about myself and we got along okay. That is because they lack empathy. I understand Frederics frustration but lots of narcissists dont know they are afflicted, and I expect some dont care. I suggest walking away from those you dont, and dont give in to the guilt trip that you feel bad because you havent seen them, or some other guilt you feel. Thats changing because she has done so much therapy and is in a healthier place than she could ever have hoped to be. I fell out of love about 3 years ago and only stay for financial reasons. Catch 22 comes to mind here. He has refused to look on property websites because its too stressful, and hes fed up of seeing the same old crap but then the minute he gets stressed accusing me of not doing enough to find us a home, caring too much about being cheap, and that Im selfish. It has brought me to a place where I find myself valuating my life, my relationships. You can only change yourself. There isnt much more important than mental health. And then 1 therapist.. her boss and the director of the foundation cornered me.. 1 hour beating me saying i should find a work (im disabled! But we do have good times and the rages only happen every 5 or 6 months. However he spends upto 2 hours a day looking at them. They are the predictably outcome of antisocial society as normal. Heres the kicker though: I think I might be somewhere on the autism spectrum AND a narcissist. Good luck. This happened at a hospital school in the late 1950s where he was sent away to for six months. Im sure there are probably more issues with this article. My family story is full to the brim with the human condition and how it can impact the members of an afflicted family. He meets ALL the criteria. I let the way that others treat me and respond around me dictate how I then think and feel about myself. And it was clear, looking back, his autism was in fact a bit to blame. For many years I idolised him, protected him and always put myself last in every area, even walking through a doorway etc. I was not looking for another relationship and did not date other men as I thought I had had my chance at marriage. LadyJay you have found what I have found. I can relate to much of what you have said as far as the narcissistic partner, and how it destroys the very fabric of who you are. i also enjoyed reading your notion that autistic people are unable to correctly support their loved ones; thanks for throwing me under the bus by inferring that im somehow incompetent at anything my loved ones care about. I want to share my home with my loved ones but he makes it so unconfortable I have to do this outside of my home. He responded that since I just couldnt wait until he was better to hear from him, and since we had no interests in common, that some time apart would give us perspective. We have a good relationship, and she has a learning disability which makes me learn more towards autism, but there are some glaring narcissistic traits as well. I cannot change her, she is the way she is. I havent had the courage to put myself back out there since an adult diagnosis because I want to get things right and dont feel Im ready. We married at the age of 22 and had 4 beautiful children together. It took me 18 months of visits to a psychologist before I could really step back and see what was happening, thats how much he screwed with my brain. She was diagnosed only two years ago and is now 34. Im guessing he didnt understand that his guilt-tripping behaviour was in fact guilt-tripping and would cause me to feel horrible, because he has the autistic trait of not having some of that surface-level emotional and situational understanding. That was 10 days ago. I am 72 (still feel young) :-). Weird, but Im not complaining. That includes his dental work. Im sorry if I have rambled on so long I just needed to vent and dont want to do this with the family because then they will think bad of him. these so called personality disorders simply do not exist I feel tremendous empathy knowing hes probably had to deal with the way he is his whole life, him not understanding why he has run ins with other people. Hi Jenny, We were not monogamous. Oberman, K., & Ramachandan, V. (2007, June 1). So all of his behavior never made sense to me. I now realise this constant bashing I experienced was in part because I was such an easy target as an autistic person and also a constant thorn in their sides because 1. The World and technology is moving so fast and many of us are not equipped to deal with it at all, and not because we arent willing. happy?! Our story is very sad and very damaging, but we didnt know that growing up, as we had to survive our family chaos. I do not understand manipulative behaviour and fall into the same traps over and over again, even with the same person. Narcissism is characterized by an inflated sense of When we watch TV, films etc. I found it very beneficial. I did wonder whether someone could have both which is what brought me to this page. We then began watching a couple of DVDs, one depicting Temple Grandins life growing up and her struggle with her autism. I can understand this up to a point, but I am still researching the field of autism and narcissistic personality disorder, and retrospectively trying to make sense of my life. I have no attacks, no one everyday is trying to ruin my life. And Im now again trying to keep up. Break up and never look back. narcissist pretending to be autistic He was talking one day about his job and pedophiles came up and I mentioned Id been molested as a child. I honestly dont know if I would bother with therapy if not for the potential to help improve my marriage as we both move into our middle age (which Ive heard can be a turning point for many/most). Because there are many individuals that are not the same? He loves sarcasm but sometimes it just sounds like disguised meanness to me and again Im too sensitive if I say it bothers me. They do not do this to be controlling, feed their ego, or fulfill a personal need for superiority. Thankyou Robin, Im Pleased it was helpful. Neither she and my brother understand what upbringing can do in the way of damage and traumatisation. Like he has some wiring thats off and doesnt realize it. It is a neurologically caused developmental condition. Am I moaning too much? Its a weird feeling to feel both incapable of understanding why you do certain selfish things (and want to stop), and still do them. metal poisoning, food intolerance etc Climb Out Of Trauma With Coach Kat 7.67K subscribers Subscribe 4.6K views 3 years ago Is it ASD or NPD? yes. I wish you luck with your maturation as time moves on. Ofcourse that didnt help make my life easier haha can you believe a ADHD senstiive autistic child in a family of cold-hearted monsters They wanted me to shut up but i jsut wouldnt. Elizabeth he is a narcissist, I lived with one for 38 years and he almost destroyed me and his family in the process of trying to be in control. My way to determine the difference is via the behaviour called gasslighting. I left in her bank money for me still.. i was in shock.. i was the only one in the entire world that knew i had to run .. get rid of the money.. anything but dont leave me on my computer with 100k in bank!!! His was all about him, him, him, hers is more about where she belongs in this world and the bubble (as she calls it) she lives in and has to step out of to face what goes on in the rest of the world. Im not sure if what I have written will help but I hope so even if its just a little. For that matter, people who get enough sleep, sunshine and fresh air? I was desperate for attention and conversation and no abuse and so I had several sexual encounters that he just found out about and now I dont know how to end this all. 5. I would have thought either you do them willfully or your are unaware of them altogether. But when researching have an open mind and dont just research one article, there is a lot of rubbish on the internet, but there is also some very good information that can improve the knowledge of anything you want to learn about and especially the autism spectrum. This will require patience and perseverance. I dont feel scared or anything and he usually storms out and drives to him mums 17 miles away, returning in two or three hours. Hes a loner and so am I so I thought wed be compatible. Perhaps if you did some research yourself on narcissism and manipulation you may get a better sense of whether this is happening to you or not. No, but was referred to another phone number. Hello Freja, I understand there are four levels of autism. The bipolar seems to be more like borderline disorder than bipolar even though my family as strong bipolar genes. And no you arent grumbling unnecessarily as you are in effect keeping him, and he isnt a dependent child, he is supposed to be a partner. 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